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 Post subject: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:02 am 
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I've managed to buy a cadian battleforce so i can finally start my imperial guard army. Now since i've spent more than 100 euros to buy all the stuff i needed, there's no way i can afford more models for some time. So i need to make a playable army out of the cadian battleforce. Here's what i've tought:

HQ

CCS - 125 pts
power weapon
plasma pistol
plasma gun
autocannon
medic

Troops

Veteran Squad - 95 pts
missile launcher
grenade launcher x2

Veteran Squad - 95 pts
missile launcher
grenade launcher x2

Fast Attack

Scout Sentinel - 60 pts
lascannon
hunterkiller missile

total 375 pts, which leaves me 25 pts to play with since i'm aiming for a 400 pts list.
I've taken the medic as i plan to build an all plasma ccs as soon as i can get more models. The veterans have been armed with gl because i got lots of them while i only have one melta, besides i don't think i will face many heavy vehicles on such small games. In the future i plan to take a pcs and use the gls and mls i have now to build two inf squads, while the vets will take 3xmeltas and a chimera each. Is it any good?

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 Post subject: Re: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:38 am 
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CCS-50 pts
power weapon-10 pts
plasma pistol-10 pts
plasma gun-10 pts
autocannon-10 pts
medic-30 pts

This is very expensive for what it does. Personally, I'd proxy, until you can get some more - in a Medic, and 3 Plasma Gunners. Autocannons are rather poor. They can't hit heavy vehicles, and there are enough mid and higher strength weapons to deal with Rhino's and Chimera's.

However, 3 Plasma Guns and PFist with Carapace Armour gives a very low chance of losing a model due to overheat - say you're rapid firing, that's 7 shots, hitting on 4's. Law of average states 1 dice, maybe 2 at worst will Overheat. You have a 4+ Save, followed by another 4+ Save - that's a 75% chance of ignoring any wound by overheat - better than Marine Plas Gunners, and far more effective against them.

Alternatively, drop the Medic, and go for 4 Meltaguns. IMHO, though, I'd drop the Power Sword.

Veteran Squad 1 - I like the use of Missile Launchers, but don't mistake Vanilla Guard Grenade efficiency in DoW for Table Top. 2 3" Blasts won't do much, and S6 can't target Armour effectively. Instead, you're better going for Plasma, Snipers (anti-Monsters and pinning) or Melta's (anti-tank and anti-terminator). With BS4, they aren't going to waste, and do perfectly for Instagibbing Marine heroes.

Veteran Squad 2 - Same again really.

Scout Sentinel - Excellent. Personally, I don't like the HK Missile - too expensive for a 1 shot - but an LC Scout Sentinel can be deployed anywhere, then scout into terrain, and then pop out and annihilate a tank. Nice work ;)

Edit - oh, just made pointers as I read. no harm done.

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 Post subject: Re: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:28 am 
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You're completely right about veterans' gls but the point is that i have five of them while i only have one sniper rifle, one plasma gun and one melta. So as you can easily see i can't make much with them right now. The same goes for the ccs squad as i don't have enough plasma guns to go for a classic 3 pgs + medic + carapace nor do i have 4 meltas. Let's just say that this list is more about deciding which models from my cadian battleforce build and paint in order to get a basic yet effective force that would later be expanded as i can get more models (as in: i can get more money).

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 Post subject: Re: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:53 pm 
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I just gotta ask this, why only 400 points? Jack up what you have with
proxying (<--?idk) and then have at least 1k. Most people woun't want to play until you get it up a bit, about 2k +, so get with the proxy. I would proxy some heavy weapons, ie lascannons. Also, I have a newer IMPG army that I don't want. If you want, I'll sell you about 1500-2000 point army at a discount. I have 3 squads of cadian, 2 sentinels, 1 valkrie, 1 command squad, 2 commanders, and a chimera. Also I have 3 basilisks. sorry if I mispelled anything, I'm a bit tired.


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 Post subject: Re: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:59 pm 
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Just curious but isn't the minimum force organisation for Imperial Guard 1 HQ choice and 2 Troop choices? I'm not sure if I'm reading it right or not since I'm pretty new to tabletop.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:09 am 
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Just curious but isn't the minimum force organisation for Imperial Guard 1 HQ choice and 2 Troop choices? I'm not sure if I'm reading it right or not since I'm pretty new to tabletop.


Indeed this is true, and why marines cannot be played in 500 points. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:29 am 
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Okay so correct me if I'm wrong but won't 1 Imperial Guard troop choice have to be formed of 1 Platoon Command Squad and 2 Infantry Squads? If that is true then the Battleforce pack doesn't provide you with everything you need to play properly does it? I don't mean to go poking holes in your army list, I'm just curious because I want to build up my own list and I see lists similar to yours but get confused with my interpretation in the codex. I'm just looking for some clarity


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:44 am 
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AsianFella wrote:
Okay so correct me if I'm wrong but won't 1 Imperial Guard troop choice have to be formed of 1 Platoon Command Squad and 2 Infantry Squads? If that is true then the Battleforce pack doesn't provide you with everything you need to play properly does it? I don't mean to go poking holes in your army list, I'm just curious because I want to build up my own list and I see lists similar to yours but get confused with my interpretation in the codex. I'm just looking for some clarity


Yeah, none of the battleforces come with HQ's. :) Gotta buy 'em elsewhere. :x

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 Post subject: Re: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
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Uh why rez the topic to say that? By the time you rez'd it the army got a new codex anyway. It says the date in which it was posted on the upper right part of the post.

Anyway, Platoon Command squads don't need much beyond 4 guys and a guy with a las pistol and chainsword.

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 Post subject: Re: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
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Sorry, I wasn't aware it was an old topic. I was surfing the active topics and there it was. I believe it was Taoutes that rez'ed the topic.

Looking at the date of the original post makes sense as to why the list confused me, thanks for pointing that out for me :D

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 Post subject: Re: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:13 pm 
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I know, it was me. Well, sort of. I got online at my friend's house to show him the site and the FoK mod stuff, and I forgot to sign out. He kinda went nutso and posted on about six topics. God, I'm so pissed off at him :evil: . Now I got about five of these to post if anyone asks about this again. I'm gonna kill him cause of this.


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Taoutes wrote:
I know, it was me. Well, sort of. I got online at my friend's house to show him the site and the FoK mod stuff, and I forgot to sign out. He kinda went nutso and posted on about six topics. God, I'm so pissed off at him :evil: . Now I got about five of these to post if anyone asks about this again. I'm gonna kill him cause of this.


If this be true, it would explain much. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: First, and very small, Imperial Guard army
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Taoutes wrote:
I know, it was me. Well, sort of. I got online at my friend's house to show him the site and the FoK mod stuff, and I forgot to sign out. He kinda went nutso and posted on about six topics. God, I'm so pissed off at him :evil: . Now I got about five of these to post if anyone asks about this again. I'm gonna kill him cause of this.


If this be true, it would explain much. ;)


I know, and FYI, I kicked his ass on Tuesday. BTW, he doesn't have me signed in om his computer anymore.


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since its a necro then it will be locked.
create a new thread otherwise.

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